The British retreat on metrication from the early 1980’s, starting with the abolition of the Metrication Board, is a symptom of British exceptionalism. Ronnie Cohen looks at this issue, or should we say problem?
On the metric front, the British secured opt-outs from EU directives on road signs, draught beer, doorstep milk, precious metals and acres for land registration and they got several extensions for the use of supplementary indications until SIs were extended indefinitely. The opt-out for the use of acres for land registration was later abolished.
Backsliding on metrication is part of a wider pattern of behaviour in terms of constant demands for special treatment in the European Union. The resistance to falling into line on metric standards is seen in other areas, for example:
- Rise of racism, xenophobia and hostility to foreigners, blaming foreigners for many of Britain’s problems.
- Revolt against globalisation.
- Opt-out from the European Monetary System.
- Withdrawal from areas of EU co-operation in justice and home affairs.
- Steep decline in the study of European languages.
- Budget rebate on EU membership contributions. The UK was the only member to secure a permanent rebate on its contributions to the EU budget. This issue has been a constant source of tension with other member states.
- More opt-outs than any other EU member.
- Cameron’s renegotiation of the UK’s terms of EU membership, including UK exclusion from the commitment to “ever closer union”.
- Constant demands to get rid of unspecified EU regulations.
- Refusal to join the 2011 Fiscal Compact Treaty.
- Eurosceptic demands to unilaterally veto further EU integration and legislation.
The British had privileged terms of membership that no other state has ever secured and included the derogations (i.e. opt-outs) from some EU directives on metrication, budget rebate, Maastricht treaty opt-outs (the British had more EU opt-outs than any other member), Cameron’s veto of the 2011 Fiscal Compact Treaty and Cameron’s renegotiation to exclude the UK from the commitment to “ever closer union” and restrict migrants’ social security benefits. Alas, these privileged membership terms were not enough to persuade the UK to remain in the EU.
“The United Kingdom’s approach to the European project has from the start been colored by a belief in a kind of chauvinistic otherness — we were happy to be part of the club, but only on the condition we could have a special status within it.
Whether this stems from an island psyche, an imperial history, repelling World War 2 occupation or something else is debatable, but with respect to European integration, successive prime ministers have pursued a policy of “British exceptionalism” — think Margaret Thatcher’s budget rebate.
The policy was articulated last year in a lecture by the U.K.’s former EU Ambassador Ivan Rogers, in which he described David Cameron’s ill-fated efforts to strike a deal with the EU27 that would persuade voters to back Remain in the referendum. “Throughout all his years in office, [Cameron] was defending and enhancing British exceptionalism, and in carving out a permanent niche, within the market project, but outside the monetary, banking, fiscal and political union. He believed strongly that this was in the U.K.’s best interests,” said Rogers.” (Source: “British ‘exceptionalism’ drove Brexit, but EU media aren’t buying it” by James Randerson, 28 March 2018, published by Politico, https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-europe-british-exceptionalism-drove-vote-but-eu-media-arent-buying-it/)
The UK believes it has been a superpower (towering empire) and a plucky underdog (World War 2) – yearning for past glories of Empire (hence Leave campaign slogans such as “take back control”, “regain sovereignty”, etc). The UK had the largest empire the world has ever seen, for centuries ruling big chunks of the world. At its peak, the British Empire ruled about one-quarter of the world’s land mass and population. Many in Britain resented being a side-show, not being top dog in the EU. They often talked about the UK leading Europe. Being just another voice among 27 other members was never enough.
“Of course, no-one who knows anything about the EU would argue Britain lacked influence within it. The country skilfully used its ties to the US and its EU membership to maximise its value to both sides; the EU helped Britain to punch above its weight. Britain was also instrumental in the EU’s embrace of a liberalising economic policy and its enlargement to the East. The latter has helped cement English as the lingua franca across Europe. Britain even managed to negotiate a special status within the EU – part of the single market, but not a member of the eurozone or Schengen. But this kind of influence was never enough. The EU’s institutions never looked sufficiently British.” (Source: “The British and their Exceptionalism” by Simon Tilford, 3 May 2017, Centre for European Reform, https://www.cer.eu/insights/british-and-their-exceptionalism)
On 7 January 2019, Prospect magazine published an article under the heading “The Myth of Brexit as Imperial Nostalgia” (Source: https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/world/the-myth-of-brexit-as-imperial-nostalgia, Author: Robert Saunders). A few quotes from this article are relevant to this MV article and are worth repeating here:
- A number of prominent writers “saw in Brexit a case-study in “postcolonial melancholia,” driven by ‘a nostalgic yearning for lost colonies—and the wealth and global influence that came with them.'”
- “The Brexit debate spoke to deep-rooted ideas about history, identity and loss, none of which could be easily disentangled from Britain’s imperial past.”
- “The idea that Britain should lead the EU—widely deployed in 2016—has as strong an imperial heritage as the aspiration to leave it; and in loading membership with unrealistic aspirations, it may have contributed to disillusionment with the European experience.”
A common narrative among Brexiteers is that EU laws have been imposed on the UK and that the British lacked control of our laws. In fact, the British government almost always got their way and were rarely outvoted. Official EU voting records show that the British government voted ‘No’ to laws on only 56 occasions, abstained on 70 occasions and voted ‘Yes’ 2466 times since 1999. In other words, UK ministers were on the winning side 95% of the time and on the losing side only 2% of the time.
The British obtained special exemptions on use of metric units in some areas, just as they secured a privileged membership status on other issues. The only other member state that got similar exemptions on metrication was Ireland but they converted their road signs in 2005. Why were the British unable to do the same?
After the British voted to leave the EU on 23 June 2016, the British had an inflated sense of their own importance in post-referendum negotiations and overestimated their negotiation strength. Hence, British politicians made claims such as “The day after we vote to leave, we hold ALL the cards.”, “We can have our cake and eat it.” and “They need us more than we need them.”. There was a belief that the UK can get everything it wanted and give up nothing. EU politicians coined a new term for the attempt to keep all the trade benefits without any EU obligations; they called it “cakeism”. Reality turned to be very different in the negotiations.
Only the UK and Greenland held referenda on leaving the EU and both voted to leave by a similar margin. As a dependency of Denmark, Greenland had become an EU member when Denmark joined in 1973. The UK held two referenda on its membership, once in 1975 when a two-thirds majority voted to remain and again in 2016 when 52% voted to leave.
We can only hope that the Government’s much-criticised handling of Brexit and COVID strikes a big blow against British exceptionalism and this helps our leaders to recognise that the UK must join the modern world to secure its post-Brexit future. The UK is alone among all the countries of Europe that insists on using non-metric road signs. Since the French revolution in the late eighteen century, the metric system has spread to all countries in the world, on every continent. Even the USA uses metric for many purposes (e.g. litres for soft drinks, nutrition information, manufacturing, science, etc). Why does only the UK insist on moving away from the rest of the world and going back to the imperial system? Is this about the past glories of the British Empire, when this system was used for imperial trade among the UK and its colonies?
Turing the clock back on the use of metric measures can only contribute to the UK’s decline in influence around the world, and would also cause problems in the British Isles. It would put up additional trade barriers with Northern Ireland (which remains in the EU regulatory orbit), with the EU and with the rest of the world. Global Britain – no chance!
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What a biased and completely untrue write up. Britain has used the metric system for years,whats this to do with the EU?
Britain along with other countries use the Imperial system,this was adopted so that industry could expand, the metric system is outdated, however a carefull mix of both is the way forward,we all understand Fahenheit temperature and BTU, and mm and metres miles tons cwt etc. Now that we are rid of the UK (EU) lets recover our British Standards!
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Algeria left the EEC in 1962 as it gains independence from France
Greenland voted to leave the EC in 1982 and left in 1985
The UK voted to leave in 2016 and left after the transition period in 2021.
Algeria and Greenland kept using the Metric system, the UK unfortunately still thinks it’s 1939 and has an empire, can’t wait to see what happens when the US eventually goes metric, but Americans tend to suffer from a similar condition as the British, it thinks everyone should follow them..
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The question that needs to be asked is: Where are the pro-metric, pro-progress people and why aren’t they fighting back hard? Don’t they care?
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An interesting read. It sees the same nationalist situation from a different angle.
https://eand.co/britain-is-the-worlds-newest-failed-state-ac460fa3e77a
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Thankfully we still have the imperial system that replace the metric system many years ago. The metric system was not what industry wanted, as a result GB more or less dominated the world market.
Nowadays we find the metic system,being decimalised is in many ways easier to work with, however, sometimes it is not so easy to understand, I suppose it depends on what you are taught.
Small measurements we seem to prefer metric, ie mm, metres, or feet, larger it is miles, liquid measure its still pints, gallons as well as litres, temperature its still Fahenheit( that we all understand)
We have got rid of pouds,shillings and pence(imperial) that we was taught in school
So the combination is best of both worlds, suits the western world well.
Lets not get rid of the metric system although it may have been outdated.
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Imperialyes makes a very good point: that the UK is in a hopeless mess when it comes to units of measurement. However, if he or she really thinks this ‘combination’ ‘suits the western world more’, I would respectfully suggest that he or she get out and actually travel around the western world once the pandemic is over. He or she will not find UK imperial used as a system of measurement in any other country, western or otherwise. The whole of continental Europe is metric (even the pipe thread sizes that imperialists like to quote, introduced by British engineers, are made in metric but simply have a ‘fraction’ as a common name for them), Ireland is metric apart from pints of beer, the USA has its own mishmash but is predominantly metric in industry and the customary units do not correspond to imperial units across the board. The Commonwealth is all metric. Go to Australia and New Zealand and see for yourself, Imperialeyes, all metric. Canada does suffer some interference from its neighbour to the south, but its road signs are all metric as are its weather forecasts. What other ‘western world’ do you mean? Japan? Metric? The advanced and developing Asian countries? All metric (Myanmar is getting there, I understand) . But if I take a sentence from Imperialeyes’ second post “Thankfully we still have the imperial system that replace (sic) the metric system many years ago”, I am inclined to think this is midsummer madness, a wind-up.
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Your comment seems to reflect your own views and not facts,it seems that I have touch a nerve somewhere. You should do some research
I do like features of the metric system,however it only seems to work well alongside the imperial system, at some point in time it may all be metric.
Such a shame!
Establishment of the system
The Weights and Measures Act of 1824 and the Act of 1878 established the British Imperial System on the basis of precise definitions of selected existing units. The 1824 act sanctioned a single imperial gallon to replace the wine, ale, and corn (wheat) gallons then in general use. The new gallon was defined as equal in volume to 10 pounds avoirdupois of distilled water weighed at 62 °F with the barometer at 30 inches, or 277.274 cubic inches (later corrected to 277.421 cubic inches). The two new basic standard units were the imperial standard yard and the troy pound, which was later restricted to weighing drugs, precious metals, and jewels. A 1963 act abolished such archaic measures as the rod and chaldron (a measure of coal equal to 36 bushels) and redefined the standard yard and pound as 0.9144 metres and 0.45359237 kg respectively. The gallon now equals the space occupied by 10 pounds of distilled water of density 0.998859 gram per millilitre weighed in air of density 0.001217 gram per millilitre against weights of density 8.136 grams per millilitre.
While the British were reforming their weights and measures in the 19th century, the Americans were just adopting units based on those discarded by the act of 1824. The standard U.S. gallon is based on the Queen Anne wine gallon of 231 cubic inches and is about 17 percent smaller than the British imperial gallon. The U.S. bushel of 2,150.42 cubic inches, derived from the Winchester bushel abandoned in Britain, is approximately 3 percent smaller than the British imperial bushel. In the British system, units of dry and liquid capacity are the same, while in the United States they differ; the liquid and dry pint in Britain both equal 0.568 cubic decimetre, while the U.S. liquid pint is 0.473 cubic decimetre, and the U.S. dry pint is 0.551 cubic decimetre. British and American units of linear measure and weight are essentially the same. Notable exceptions are the British stone of 14 pounds, which is not used in the United States, and a divergence in definition of the hundredweight (100 pounds in the United States, 112 in Britain) that yields two different tons, the short U.S. ton of 2,000 pounds and the long British ton of 2,240 pounds. In 1959 major English-speaking nations adopted common metric definitions of the inch (2.54 cm), the yard (0.9144 metres), and the pound (0.4536 kg).
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Weights and measures in the British Imperial System
A list of British Imperial weights and measures is provided in the table.
British Imperial and U.S. Customary systems of weights and measures
unit abbreviation or symbol equivalents in other units of same system metric equivalent
Weight
Avoirdupois* avdp
*The U.S. uses avoirdupois units as the common system of measuring weight.
ton
short ton 20 short hundredweight, or 2,000 pounds 0.907 metric ton
long ton 20 long hundredweight, or 2,240 pounds 1.016 metric tons
hundredweight cwt
short hundredweight 100 pounds, or 0.05 short ton 45.359 kilograms
long hundredweight 112 pounds, or 0.05 long ton 50.802 kilograms
pound lb, lb avdp, or # 16 ounces, or 7,000 grains 0.454 kilogram
ounce oz, or oz avdp 16 drams, 437.5 grains, or 0.0625 pound 28.350 grams
dram dr, or dr avdp 27.344 grains, or 0.0625 ounce 1.772 grams
grain gr 0.037 dram, or 0.002286 ounce 0.0648 gram
stone st 0.14 short hundredweight, or 14 pounds 6.35 kilograms
Troy
pound lb t 12 ounces, 240 pennyweight, or 5,760 grains 0.373 kilogram
ounce oz t 20 pennyweight, 480 grains, or 0.083 pound 31.103 grams
pennyweight dwt, or pwt 24 grains, or 0.05 ounce 1.555 grams
grain gr 0.042 pennyweight, or 0.002083 ounce 0.0648 gram
Apothecaries’
pound lb ap 12 ounces, or 5,760 grains 0.373 kilogram
ounce oz ap 8 drams, 480 grains, or 0.083 pound 31.103 grams
dram dr ap 3 scruples, or 60 grains 3.888 grams
scruple s ap 20 grains, or 0.333 dram 1.296 grams
grain gr 0.05 scruple, 0.002083 ounce, or 0.0166 dram 0.0648 gram
Capacity
U.S. liquid measures
gallon gal 4 quarts 3.785 litres
quart qt 2 pints 0.946 litre
pint pt 4 gills 0.473 litre
gill gi 4 fluid ounces 118.294 millilitres
fluid ounce fl oz 8 fluid drams 29.573 millilitres
fluid dram fl dr 60 minims 3.697 millilitres
minim min 1/60 fluid dram 0.061610 millilitre
U.S. dry measures
bushel bu 4 pecks 35.239 litres
peck pk 8 quarts 8.810 litres
quart qt 2 pints 1.101 litres
pint pt 1/2 quart 0.551 litre
British liquid and dry measures
bushel bu 4 pecks 0.036 cubic metre
peck pk 2 gallons 0.0091 cubic metre
gallon gal 4 quarts 4.546 litres
quart qt 2 pints 1.136 litres
pint pt 4 gills 568.26 cubic centimetres
gill gi 5 fluid ounces 142.066 cubic centimetres
fluid ounce fl oz 8 fluid drams 28.412 cubic centimetres
fluid dram fl dr 60 minims 3.5516 cubic centimetres
minim min 1/60 fluid dram 0.059194 cubic centimetre
Length
nautical mile nmi 6,076 feet, or 1.151 miles 1,852 metres
mile mi 5,280 feet, 1,760 yards, or 320 rods 1,609 metres, or 1.609 kilometres
furlong fur 660 feet, 220 yards, or 1/8 mile 201 metres
rod rd 5.50 yards, or 16.5 feet 5.029 metres
fathom fth 6 feet, or 72 inches 1.829 metres
yard yd 3 feet, or 36 inches 0.9144 metre
foot ft, or ‘ 12 inches, or 0.333 yard 30.48 centimetres
inch in, or ” 0.083 foot, or 0.028 yard 2.54 centimetres
Area
square mile sq mi, or mi2 640 acres, or 102,400 square rods 2.590 square kilometres
acre 4,840 square yards, or 43,560 square feet 0.405 hectare, or 4,047 square metres
square rod sq rd, or rd2 30.25 square yards, or 0.00625 acre 25.293 square metres
square yard sq yd, or yd2 1,296 square inches, or 9 square feet 0.836 square metre
square foot sq ft, or ft2 144 square inches, or 0.111 square yard 0.093 square metre
square inch sq in, or in2 0.0069 square foot, or 0.00077 square yard 6.452 square centimetres
Volume
cubic yard cu yd, or yd3 27 cubic feet, or 46,656 cubic inches 0.765 cubic metre
cubic foot cu ft, or ft3 1,728 cubic inches, or 0.0370 cubic yard 0.028 cubic metre
cubic inch cu in, or in3 0.00058 cubic foot, or 0.000021 cubic yard 16.387 cubic centimetres
acre-foot ac ft 43,560 cubic feet, or 1,613 cubic yards 1,233 cubic metres
board foot bd ft 144 cubic inches, or 1/12 cubic foot 2.36 litres
cord cd 128 cubic feet 3.62 cubic metres
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The pipe thread you mention is BSP known throughout the world inc UK.
Not only USA but Canada also uses feet inches yards miles,lbs and tons.
Widespread use in Nova Scotia. and Alaska.
So dont be so arrogant and quick to through out the system that got the world production to where it is today.
Please dont confuse decimalisation with metricfication.ie dollar and cents is not metric,neither is our money system.
There is strong opposition to some metric measures,especially now that GB is out of the EU, but sadly, one day it may well be all metric. When we joined the common market is was Europe that dictated to us to adopt the metric system,that how the mess started.
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Imperialyes repeats the myth that accession to the European Common market in 1973 was the reason for the UK’s adoption of the metric system as its primary system of measurement. In fact, it was an answer by a minister to a written question in the UK Parliament in 1965 that started the ball rolling. Douglas Jay, President of the Board of Trade, announced that industry would convert, sector by sector, with the aim of finishing the job by 1975. The UK Metrication (no “if” please) Board was set up in 1968. I was working in construction at the time and I remember being given a metric scale and a set of metric design tables, both of which I still have.
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@imperialeyes – Alaska is part of the USA so hardly a surprise that they use the same measurements as the rest of their country. And as has been mentioned Canada does suffer to some extent from the influence of it’s southern neighbour and, as any visitor there will tell you, even outside Nova Scotia there are still many examples where US customary measures are used but the country is still predominantly metric regardless.
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Dear, oh, dear! It seems this is not a wind-up at all on the part of Imperialyes. He means it! Well, if ever proof were needed of what nonsense the imperial system is, the text he has copied from the Encyclopaedia Britannica does the job very nicely. So thank you for that. The imperial system is in terminal decline in the UK. It deserves its place in the history books as a warning to future generations.
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Of course most of the comments are from people who have biased opinions,some very biased! I would have expected this from the title of the discussion board.!
GB has always been metric,so we are not to gain the metric system.
We will just lose the British imperial system at some point in time. Industry use the metric system it is in the retail and commercial sector, however the public use both at this point in time.! this seems to annoy some people.
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Yes, Imperialyes, some of us are biased in so far as we favour the metric system. You are entitled to your opinion; others are entitled to theirs. Like others on this forum, I am interested to hear ALL points of view, whether I agree with them or not.
I am trying to understand some of your points. Britain has not “always been metric”, as you say. Neither has Germany, nor France, nor anywhere else. Britain has been late in adopting the metric system compared with most of the world.
In the 1990s the retail trade was in a muddle. Shops sold prepackaged goods in metric alongside similar weighed-out goods in imperial. This DID “annoy some people”, myself included. Thankfully we have progressed since then. Now almost everything in the retail sector is metric. There are still a few niggling exceptions.
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I have noticed many YouTube videos about science, history, etc. clearly using American presenters who use only metric or else metric followed by Imperial. Sometimes there is metric only with nothing else and sometimes metric only in the audio with both metric and Imperial displayed visually in the corner of the screen.
So, even from the USA there is slow progress. I think the younger generation is more open to metric and many other European ideas (think health care, for example), so change is surely coming, albeit slowly.
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Change will occur very slowly, there is no advantage using Metric system,in fact serious flaws which we have to get used to. The public will accept anything if is pushed hard enough, easily brainwashed.
Nearly everything is packed and sold in Metric measures that comes from manufactures.
I fully approve of some metric measures,but I also work with Imperial,so do a lot of builders, carpenters and diy ers and cooks.!
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I accept some of your points, Imperialyes.
You mention cooks. Most new cookery recipes I see nowadays, like the ones I find in magazines, especially from supermarkets, are in metric, usually excluslively. But there are plenty of old cook books around, and plenty of people with old kitchen scales, so I am sure some cookery is still done in imperial. As you say, this practice will gradually decline.
Likewise some DIYers probably still measure in inches, expecially on self contained projects like erecting shelves, making cupboards, etc. However as you say manufactured packages (e.g. self-assembly furniture) usually use metric measurements, as do “make-it-yourself” articles you find in magazines. Inevitably the usage of imperial will decline here too.
I don’t follow what you mean when you say the public is brainwashed. Youngsters are taught metric at school but I hear them talking about miles per hour, stones and pounds, which grieves me (that with most of their lives ahead their minds should be cluttered up with these outdated ideas), but it hardly suggests that they have been brainwashed. What evidence do you have on brainwashing?
As I wrote earlier, Imperialyes, I am interested in ALL viewpoints, but some you present simply as bald statements of opinion. What exactly ARE these “serious flaws which we have to get used to”? Let’s do some talking, instead of glaring across barriers of prejudice.
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Imperialyes
You say ….’there is no advantage using Metric system’.
One of the best examples of the advantage of using the metric system is happening right now and that is the Olympic Games. All the world athletes can train to the same criteria and can compete equally. In fact, the Olympic Games, which is all about athletes competing against fixed units of measurements could not exist if it tried to use different systems.
The same principle applies to worldwide business and commerce whereby products of similar sizes and specifications compete against each other to allow the customer to choose the best quality, performance and value. Where different measurement systems in certain products still stubbornly exist, for example in shoe sizes where the world uses at least four different systems, confusion reigns and international commerce and competition suffers as a result.
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Yes you are right if we all use the same units as in the Olymic games,it is eay to make comparisons.
However, the world uses many different standards and the world trade did better (especially for GB) years ago using Imperial system,thats why we adopted it.
I stated no advantage using metric system,well it depends on what you are doing,the result should be the same if everybody understands the measrurements. When I sell items and I state its 3″ across everybody knows 3″ but if I stated it was 76mm,the buyer would be left thinking how big or small it was and would probably seek out a tape measure to show. Over time we will come to accept the metric system. In Britain we speak English,however,in wales Welsh language is used, but few bother to use it,and the same applies to other languages.
So to keep the imperial system,is like keeping a native language, we in Wales knows what a nuisance this is on road signs etc,
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@imperialyes. I found that your comments about Wales interesting. I was brought up in South Africa which, until 1995, had two official languages – English and Afrikaans (I read, write and speak both). South Africa only adopted the metric system after I left school, so I had to learn how to write the date and units of measure in both languages.
In Afrikaans, one used the MDY format, but in English the DMY format. This caused problems on things like passport stamps – if a non-numeric date was used, it was not language neutral and if a numeric date was used, it was ambiguous. Eventually they decided to use the ISO format – YYYY-MM-DD which was language-neutral.
Another bugbear was the abbreviations that were used for units of measure. Wales continues to have these problems. The South Africans solved the problem by switching to the metric system and using international language-neutral symbols. The term “2 km” meant the same in both English and Afrikaans. In 1995, the country adopted another 9 official languages – isiZulu, isiXhosa, Sepedi, Setswana, Sesotho, Xitsonga, siSwati (Swazi), Tshivenda and isiNdebele. The term “2 km” is the same for all of these languages as well.
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Thank you, Imperialyes. I am beginning to understand your point of view now. You made three general points. Taking them in turn:
“. . . the world trade did better (especially for GB) years ago using Imperial system,thats why we adopted it.”
I think you are referring to the growth of the British Empire. True, that developed with trading in Imperial units, which were the best in the world at that time (until the French came up with something better still). But the world is not like that any more. We have been in and out of the EU and now take a wider look to the world for trading, including rebuilding links with Commonwealth countries such as Australia and New Zealand, which have converted to metric.
Don’t leave the USA out of this. The USA has for many years been largely self-sufficient for food products and similar, so has had less reason to convert to metric. Hence in an American food store you will see many products described in imperial which we are accustomed to seeing in metric over here. However there are some exceptions, notably wine. In an American drug store, wine is sold in 750 ml bottles just like the rest of the world. Of course the USA is a major wine producer and exporter, and its Californian wines are world famous.
“. . . I state its 3″ across everybody knows 3″ but if I stated it was 76mm,the buyer would be left thinking how big or small it was . . .”
Some of your customers may need to convert back to imperial to understand the size of something, but don’t include me or many others in that. I doubt if an Olympic athlete needs to convert 100 metres to feet to make it more comprehensible. It is all a case of familiarity. To back up my estimate of something in metric I have personal measurements to fall back upon. If I lay a screw or nail across my hand I have a good idea of its length because my fingures are about 20 mm wide so my hand is a measuring device. Similarly the length from my waist to the top of my foot (inside leg) is 1 metre.
“So to keep the imperial system,is like keeping a native language, we in Wales knows what a nuisance this is on road signs etc,”
I have visited Wales several times and I have a love-hate relationship with those signs. They can be a nuisance in so far as they take time to read – too much time with one’s eyes on the signs and not on the road. So a sign indicating three place names displays effectively six names.
And yet, when I return to plain old England, I miss them. They are part of the culture and heritage.
One can draw parallels with dual labelling of goods; it makes things look cluttered.
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Martin, your comments about South Africa [2021-08-06] are interesting. Two queries:-
1. In everyday life do they still always use the ISO date format?
2. For symbols etc. (2 km) do they always include a space between the number and the symbol? I would expect this does not happen in publications and on product labels.
If South Africa does in general always follow these international formats then the UK ought to learn from that very diverse nation.
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The date format is rather mixed. I looked at a few random sites and found no consistent pattern. The dates in my passport (last visited 2017) are however of the form YYYY-MM-DD.
When you are formatting text, you often have the luxury of a “narrow space” which is half the width of the space between words. A quick look at a picture of a road sings suggested that this is the case.
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